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Who is Red John?
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Thread started: May 2 2009, 6:09 PM EDT
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In the episode "Red John's Friends," the Director of the CBI coincidentally leaves "to visit (his) sister in Hawaii" just prior to Red John's murder of the ex-con who at least indirectly knew him. We also found out that Red John has access to the CBI Computer network and can manipulate his way through communications with Patrick and the others. My fiance and I were subsequently thinking that Red John might be the CBI Director. What will need eventually to be explained is who exactly was having "(his) feelings trifled with," the specific context involved and who Patrick himself might think Red John might be. Surely after five years--now six--of agonizing guilt, he remembers in great detail the specifics of the person he was conning and how that person might connect to Red John. Will no doubt be a great television ride...
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This all sounds really interesting, and I'd really like to read more actually, to see how you say it ties in in more detail, and examine your sources... it's too bad you took your blog down. However, I'm not really sure this is the right place to be posting your theories; this is first and foremost a Red John discussion forum, and we'd like to keep it that way, I think.
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chat about episode 4.12 My Bloody Valentine
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Thread started: Jan 14 2012, 6:24 PM EST
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Starting this one early.... is Van Pelt's dead fiance alive?
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Jane and RJ's take on reality is theatre and make believe. To quote the greatest political document of all time: "Our power is force and makebelieve." That is reality theatre in the world as you know it and in the tv series.
The Mentalist acts, directs and to some extent produces his own movie within the series. He casts other characters in the roles he contrives for the ends he chooses. In short, the spells of the Mentalist (that would be Jane / Red John) are stronger spells than most of the other characters are able to cast.
Jane the 'non-mystic' creates invisible nets, puts a spell of revelation upon a murder weapon, appears to others in the role of consultant but is in fact leading the investigations.The boundaries are in the mind as he tells Lisbon.
People create boundaries / roles for themselves as social beings. Jane is not entertained by these roles generally. And he opposes such roles when they get in the way of what he wants.
Knows the boundaries are in the mind, he is able to manipulate the boundaries. He can effortlessly climb inside someone else's cage and start messing with the reality they create for themselves and how others perceive it. Jane and RJ do this in different ways - but it is the same operation.
Jane games most of the people in his life at a very high level and sets them up for his plays.
Jane shares his take on Reality with Cho as they enter Tamsin Dove's house. (Cho is afraid of witches) "The universe" he tells Cho "is one big co-incidence." Exactly.
It sounds better in Latin: "Congruo est occultus compages subter supter animadverto." Coindence is the hidden architecture of reality. This is another way of saying - Intention. And human intentions / will (however cloaked or labeled) interact with the syncs.
Meanwhile, the drama of the Mentalist hews to its programmes.
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Chat about "Always Bet on Red" Here:
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Thread started: Jan 13 2012, 12:43 PM EST
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I'm going to have to watch this episode again. I'm conflicted. It seemed rather disjointed to me...unsettling in a way. Not quite sure what to make of Patrick actually CREATING evidence to keep higher ups from realizing that he doesn't actually think the man he killed was Red John.
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Jan 18 2012, 9:48 PM EST
One of the most importat scenes is offscene. Thomas Maier's death. He was the father of Panzer's first victim - Molly.
Lisbon and Jane hear that he committed suicide and that is supposedly when Jane gets to work planting Panzer's blood on his shirt and writing his suicide note in which Thomas claims that he revenged himself on Panzer for killing his daughter and then killed himself.
This suicide is too convenient to be believable.
Lisbon and Jane (in agreement) wanted Darcy / FBI off the Panzer case. Lisbon is the one who knows that Jane thinks Red John is alive and if this is true, he did get himself acquitted for killing Carter (in cold blood).
The fact that Carter (conveniently) turns out to be a serial killer should not provide the O.K. factor.
She mightn't know that Jane was not deceived and killed the RJ decoy, but she knows enough to know that Jane has capability and motive to get Darcy off the Panzer case.
Darcy is smart enough to know that the suspect she's looking for is someone who avenged the insult to Red John by Panzer. Jane wants her to think it was a vengeance killing. But then, who else but Jane thinks that Panzer was the San Joachin killer?
Jane is running mind games on just about everyone.
And Lisbon should be putting this together. The deal breaker should have been that video from source UNKNOWN uploaded to the Major Crime Server - a video file transferred from outside the CBI with the 'she's cute. this is going to be fun' text file. This shouldn't be possible. But then it shouldn't have been possible to breach the CBI firewall and change the surveillance videos in the Boscoe killing.
Only someone who knows all about puzzles, codes, games of logic etc could do this kind of thing. Lisbon should be thinking of Jane. She should be thinking about Thomas Maier's 'suicide'.
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What would you like to see in Season 4?
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Thread started: Jun 24 2011, 3:37 PM EDT
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This is a thread for members to chat about what they WANT to see in the upcoming new season.
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Jan 11 2012, 10:21 PM EST
Here are some Patrick Jane quotes (approximations)
To Guthrie at finale of Season 1 "In Red John's Foodsteps" - "I have a very deep personal interest in this case. I will have you tortured, framed for murder"...etc
To Boscoe on the discovery that Jane has Boscoe's office wiretapped, Jane is putting it in perspective for him. Really it wasn't that back. He could have used blackmail, he could have turned one of his agents. But no, he only used a wiretap.
The programme of The Mentalist intends for millions of people to be supporting Jane's efforts to 'find Red John' and as Hightower says "you're good for anything short of murder." In Season Four that limit will be superceeded.
Part of the belief system of this drama is that we have accept the CBI would not be able to close cases without the help of their consultant psychopath. And the rule of law does not work with psychopaths like Red John - there has to be an end justifies the means approach.
ZOG has to programme the American population with ideas like this because the NDAA has just been signed off. This Act in effect gives the executive the power to go above all laws in pursuit of political objectives. People have to be conditioned to accept that no laws protect them from the activities of the police state.
I think you should get out of this programme.
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Chat about 407 Blinking Red Light here
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Thread started: Nov 2 2011, 5:34 PM EDT
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Advertised as being one of the most intense episodes of the season, Blinking Red Light involves the CBI team trying to find a serial killer while Jane encounters a blogger who has devoted his life to finding the killer.
Sounds like a HUGE episode! Chat away!
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Jan 9 2012, 1:03 AM EST
"Wataloda.
Political Forums.com
U.S. policies online
These two are for all your Political clap trap. You will have an intrigued audience I'm sure.
abovetopsecret.com
www.scam.com
These two are for all your Conspiracy needs. You can BS to your heart's content, with others who enjoy the same fears.
www.theologyweb.com
www.kheper.net
These are for your Religious corruptions. I hope you enjoy the section on Kaballah.
" Or I could just watch The Mentalist. Their Kaballism caters for post 9-11 political and conspiracy needs as well as the religious corruptions covered by all the above sites. My advice - just watch TM. Saves time. Saves BS on the blogs. Saves gigs on the Homeland Security data base. This won't exactly stick a fork in Mr and Mz potato head. But they are done anyway. You think not? Oy vey - roll the credits.
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